From watching stuff like Punisher to Quentin Tarantino to Dexter to Mandalorian, or even Batman/Daredevil brutally beating the living crap and taking out their wrath on someone (even if it’s “well deserved”), I keep thinking how did the other perpetrator or loser end up in that person and why and if they really are the hero do their own story, and how did the victim end up being a victim and why. Accept judgment. Pain yells at him saying, “There is no such thing as real peace! They will know pain. Pain voice clips from the show and Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm video games. Pain vs Naruto. | The Anime Podcast episode 7. We are all still human, however, and have a fundamental/basic understanding/knowledge of morality. You and I seek the same thing that Jiraiya-sensei wanted. Ending the cycle of hatred doesn't end with the war but it does start most of it. We both want the same thing. The cycle of hatred is resonance war that getting revenge only leads to more hate and helps the problem in spouts and naruto will solve it without falling victim to it himself and defeat pain for killing Jiraiya there sensei. You and I seek the same thing that Jiraiya-sensei wanted. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Other scenes that kinda bring up my point in addition: https://youtu.be/-IbRa3kSe1g In the recent Mandalorian episode how Mayfiled was talking about how Mandalore and their code aren’t much different than the Empire, https://youtu.be/rS4EJGh9mIg The car scene in Se7en when John Doe explains how everybody has a sin on them and nobody is ever truly innocent. Use Naruto Shippuden OST - Hatred and thousands of other assets to build an immersive game or experience. You could see how much that messed with Naruto, it was the reason he couldn't fight back and why Pain was able to hold him down, because, despite all the hope Jiraya had put into him, Naruto didn't have a solution to the cycle of hatred. Which is incorrect. One day, two Konoha shinobi broke into their home looking for food and Nagato and his parents tried to sneak out unnoticed. NARUTO : A tailed beast weapon. All of humanity, all the nations will learn what pain truly is . 2. In which case, yeah, it sucks that people get born, tricked, or brainwashed into doing the wrong thing but that's reality. But for future Hokage, it may not be so simple. Create. TL;DR: All the morally ambiguous stuff out there and how nobody is every truly right and how everyone is the hero of their own story and the toxicity brought up by anger, hate, and revenge, and how we are all deeply evil and the just world hypothesis really ruins the entertainment out of Revenge Movies and anything with Antiheroes as the protagonist we are supposed to love and root for. The world of ninjas is ruled by hatred. So what are you saying? | The Anime Podcast episode 7. I am gonna use “Pein” for the name and “pain” for the adjective. If he started killing indiscriminately, without reason, then he would be a villain, but he doesn't. We can of course feel bad for those who've had genuinely terrible circumstances, understand where they come from, and use their past to explain their behaviors/actions, but that still does not excuse them, nor is this always the case. [To Naruto in his Six-Tailed Fox Cloak] My pain is greater than yours. So you believe they could never die.. You are working for your justice, and I for mine. And man, I'm so impressed. Apprennez Anglais d'une façon amusante avec la vidéo et les paroles "Pain's Cycle Of Hatred" de Naruto Anti hero isn't always about revenge though. Heck, I don't even think this is possible but this is fiction. As the ruthless CEO of Kamagiri Corporations, he was targeted by his own relatives he worked so hard to support and was killed. Pain attack every one of their songs with the sort of innovative bone-crushing vigor not seen in a long while. ". After all, faith is better than … Let me ask you this: How will you confront this hatred in order to create peace?" -Nagato Quotes. Are you kidding! According to him people forget pain that that's why new wars are being waged. And becomes a chain of hatred. You and I are no different. While there are those who've had terrible home lives, which have shaped their personalities and made them do terrible things, there are others who've lived fairly blessed lives, and yet still chose violent and immoral paths. The Curse of Hatred (憎しみの呪い Nikushimi no Noroi) was an ideal common to members of the Uchiha clan. Pain(Nagato) Speach To Naruto - Cycle of Hatred English DUB - Naruto Shippuden. Love is the reason why there is pain. Mayfeld says that (probably to justify his own actions as an Imperial soldier) but then, he hears his former commanding officer give him the brutal details and reasoning for the Empire's continued existence. Justice? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. What made them do what they did? Make social videos in an instant: use custom templates to tell the right story for your business. The police chief with corrupt cops working under him and the vigilante protagonist do what Harvey Dent cannot and should not do. | The Anime Podcast episode 7. Should we just allow bad people to get away with doing bad things just because "They're the hero of their own story"? But if revenge is called justice, then that justice breeds yet more revenge. Select from a wide range of models, decals, meshes, plugins, or audio that help bring your imagination into reality. In this cursed world we live in, it is a cycle of hatred that will not cease. Could we have been in their position given their circumstances? Essentially, antiheroes and the guys seeking vengeance/justice against 'bad people' exist to do a job the hero and the innocents they wish to protect or avenge cannot. But in death there is only more death. Other examples when I think about Pain’s speech those dictators and extremists who try justifying what they do and offering their perspective on why dictators are needed and like people who say The Empire did nothing wrong and can be justified in all they did. You can talk now, but if some dude beats the shit out of you in an alleyway, steals your money and rapes your girlfriend, are you seriously gonna stay there and wonder how he ended up in that place and made those choices? Pein is one of my favorite villains. Pain is the way to bring peace. And that's why it is important that whoever is in charge is a good person, even if they contradict themselves by hurting those poor bastards on the other side. Nagato lived with his parents: Fusō and Ise on the outskirts of Amegakure. There is a line to draw for sympathy and understanding; ex. Living within it, aware of the past, predicting the future. Sure, maybe if I was raised in a ghetto, didn't have any parental figures, no education, and poor role models, I may end up taking a path of crime and murder. If you cut me, I bleed loyalty and snobbery for sub-only Naruto. Pain’s speech is the primary example in trying to get at as I watch his speech about how vengeance is just an endless cycle of fighting and what I really pick on is how you could’ve ended up like the other guy if you were in their shoes, and in their view, they were justified and were the hero of their own story. He actually puts emotion and nuance in his voice. Anime Characters Crying Naruto.The channel was first introduced to anime when mom (saint ma) reacted to naruto, pain's cycle of hatred.their reaction to my hero academia 1×1 izuku midoriya: The naruto series can have you running for the tissue box at the drop of a hat with its tragic back stories, ultimate tales of sacrifice, and the deaths of way too many favorite characters. I've heard people rant about how incredible his voice is, but this is my first time hearing it. Thus, antiheroes and morally complex characters exist to keep them in check with reality. We both know that pain. But does that excuse my actions? I'm sure Hitler was the hero of his own story too, does that mean you don't feel anything when you watch a movie about the Holocaust? I would hate Them but hate the universe for causing them to ruin my life https://youtu.be/zO0sSJB1TrI. It’s just personally stuff like this has made The Punisher and Inglorious Basterds , Joel brutally interrogating bandits in the last of us, and Dexter less enjoyable and entertaining. https://discord.gg/E92zdkH, Press J to jump to the feed. Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is not always for the right reasons, often acting primarily out of self-interest or in ways that defy conventional ethical codes. And while I can’t find the specific scene, just all the morally Grey dilemmas that occur in Breaking Bad, like people who say if the average Joe were in Walt’s position, they would end up poisoning Brock too. You blend the old and traditional with the new and the cutting edge, and what you get is this 6 song record – “Cycle Of Hate”. "Cycle of Hatred" [Epic Speech of Pain] [Subbed] HD - YouTube Plus I’m 30 years old and have been 100% single. Naruto is one of my favourite anime of all time. We both want the peace Jiraiya spoke of. Which is why I love this series to bits. Congratulations, you've learned elementary school levels of empathy. Nagato's Speech about Pain and Cycle of Hatred. Not all antiheroes are motivation by revenge either. I don't know how he plans to do this. Of them, the one who influenced me a lot was Pain. But if revenge is called justice, then that justice breeds yet more revenge. A/N: I don't own any of the pictures, songs and quotes throughout this book, #natuto And for every person that has fallen down that path, there are others who have risen above their circumstances and still retained basic human decency. One of Pain's best moments. All that pain forced me to grow up. Parent tags (more general): Naruto; This tag has not been marked common and can't be filtered on (yet). Whoever is strongest and well loved becomes Hokage. With that Mandalorian episode, you watched it wrong. That's why, in something like the Dark Knight, there's a need to keep Harvey Dent's image alive. Doesn’t fall in my favorite characters list but he was an awesome villain. There are plenty of reasons for that, but the number one reason being due to the sheer amount of wisdom in the series. Pain is another brutal death band I have discovered through Metalhead Community Blog submissions about a week ago with this very song; Cycle of Hate, off from their debut album; Cycle of Hate, which was released in 2018. Living within it, aware of the past, predicting the future. Especially those who haven't known war.. Like your generation. -Nagato Pain Quotes. NARUTO : But if you do achieve peace like that , then the whole thing is … In Naruto's case, he shows that people love him and he loves others while also being strong enough to beat Pain. He burns all bridges he had with the Empire and by doing so, he has chosen to acknowledge that the Empire is wrong and that there actually is a difference. For the time being, Naruto may be able to keep things going well simply on account of being the strongest ninja ever. But in death there is only more death. We cannot help but know that people cannot … Vengeance is the product of that hate and so death follows. The Best Anime Speech!! Also I need more context in the situation. I think it’s also human tendency for things get personal. According to Tobirama Senju, the Uchiha are people greatly devoted to love and friendship, yet they tend to conceal their more affectionate traits. This will give rise to more pains. Because without that ideal person to live up to, society falls. The justice I have meted out against Konoha, is exactly the same as what you're trying to mete out against me. He chooses his own humanity over whatever identity the Empire tries to instill in him and that's what makes him heroic (or antiheroic - since anti heroes still show heroic traits). This is a bunch of quotes from Naruto. This is something Itachi realizes and that's what makes him a true ninja. CYCLE OF HATRED Lyrics: Naruto: "Create Peace? The result of wars may cause hatred, but it's not the direct cause of wars in general. It affects what they say, what they think… and they become real people. There's nothing you can do. Someone needs to do the dirty work to keep the village safe. War brings pain and injury and death to both sides. That's why he's willing to do anything to preserve the village's core values, even embarking on a path of violence so that the Hokage isn't removed and Konoha's strength to preserve peace across the land does not fall. Cannibal rapist murderers don't have understandable, relatable, or "just" motivations, they are quite plainly evil. -Naruto Pain Quotes When he was very young, Madara Uchiha secretly transplanted his Rinnegan into Nagato without his or his parents' knowledge. #quotes. Naruto agrees to this but replies that his master taught him to strive for peace with others at all costs. When Seito woke up that morning, he had absolutely no plans to be poisoned. But dang, if every voice actor was as awesome as Pain's, I'd actually watch the dub. There's nothing harder to accept than the deaths of those you love.. At the same time, the truth is the Hokage cannot do everything or else they will betray the village's values. YAHIKO : I m going to show the world what true pain is , and stop all wars with the terror that pain will inspire , I shall lead the world down the road to stability and to peace. Some people turn into Anti heroes because they don't agree with certain things, are against the government and society norms, etc. Sometime later, during the Second Shinobi World War, Nagato and his parents took shelter in their home to avoid the fighting going on around them. Plus I hardly see those people get what they deserve. Then you can know pain. When we lose someone precious to us, hate is born. People are a product of their circumstances and decisions; life may be unpredictable and can shape one's personality, but we still are responsible for our actions. Give me a break! This speech still gives me goosebumps no matter how many time i listen to it. You killed my Master, and my Sensei, Hurt my Friends, Destroyed my Village! That is what it means to know history. It is impossible as long as we live in this accursed world of ninjas!” To which Naruto responds, “Sure I don’t know how I’ll get there, but, I will break the curse. No, obviously not. We cannot help but know that people cannot understand each other. Everyone feels the pain of loss the same. Rebirth: Cycle of Hatred (Naruto Fanfiction) Fanfiction "Welcome into this world, Rei Uchiha." Naruto Pain Quotes. Pain vs Naruto. His philosophy about cycle of peace and war was also fallacious. a poor individual who has no other option other than crime to survive, vs an individual who enjoys causing suffering and pain in others. Pain vs Naruto. So what’s so great about this band? If there’s such a thing as peace, I will find it. Power makes the world go round so you better hope whoever is in charge is benevolent that people do not rebel against them. Take Wolverine for example, he's a gruff, violent, angry, lonely man, who murders his villains, but despite all of the terrible things that have happened to him, he still retains his humanity. Join our Discord! One is the case of, "that could possibly be me," and the other is, "that person is genuinely deranged and a menace to society/is completely morally bankrupt." Even the most ignorant, innocent child will eventually grow up as they learn what true pain is. In this cursed world we live in, it is a cycle of hatred that will not cease. Is this like another Just-World hypothesis thing that when nobody is truly right or justified in what they do. Also, I just watched the clip of Pain, and while he does have genuine/understandable motives for his actions, not all villains have sympathetic motivations. Love breeds sacrifice… which in turn breeds hatred. That's what makes his vision work over Pain's, who was always destined to fail. We both know that pain. From Itachi to Nagato, there’s just too much wisdom in this series. But if there is justice in revenge, then that same justice will breed only more revenge and trigger a cycle of hatred.” Pain (Naruto) “Sometimes you must hurt in order to know, fall in order to grow, lose in order to grow because life’s greatest struggle in through the pain.” We are just ordinary people driven to revenge in the name of justice. That is what it means to know history. Vengeance is the product of that hate and so death follows. And more often than not, those "villains" who go off on "you would be me different circumstances" speeches, tend to fall on the latter of those two cases, and try to use that reasoning to justify their otherwise deplorable actions. And I don't see why your "realization" would ruin antiheroes for you, since they are literally a textbook example of people being shaped by their circumstances. He's an antihero because he possesses all those less desirable traits, and yet still is a fundamental force of good. And honestly, based on that clip alone, he sounds more like an anti-hero, than a straight villain. "An antihero or antiheroine is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes such as idealism, courage, and morality. No I don’t but more of a free will and determinism type thing. People live different lives, their choices and paths are all unique, and the circumstances of their lives and effects of their actions are unpredictable. We're both working for our own justice. There is definitely a breaking point for every person, but most people don't face this dilemma; their actions are brought on solely by themselves. This tag belongs to the Additional Tags Category. Pain(Nagato) Speach To Naruto - Cycle of Hatred English DUB - Naruto Shippuden. This is the second promising Indian metal band that we are featuring here on Metalhead Community this week. But why do I like Pain? Cookies help us deliver our Services. Pain killing Jiraiya marks a turning point because he loses one of the people he’s closest to, if not the closest (Naruto traveled with Jiraiya for 2-3 years, before then he lived his life alone. Mayfeld cannot take what he hears and kills him. 3. There isn't much to say about this so 'Believe it' More posts from the CharacterRant community, Come here to talk about fictional characters, events, concepts, objects, etc. This speech still gives me goosebumps no matter how many time i listen to it. This will give rise to more pains. As a god, I will give pain to the world. Let’s say I got revenge and the Punisher had no idea that those people were like that and came after me, that’s more of what I’m talking about, And we grow up in a society where two wrongs apparently don’t make a right and an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind or whatever Bullshit, This dude is the worst of the worst and still hasn’t been in a revenge film https://youtu.be/zO0sSJB1TrI. Pain’s speech is the primary example in trying to get at as I watch his speech about how vengeance is just an endless cycle of fighting and what I really pick on is how you could’ve ended up like the other guy if you were in their shoes, and in their view, they were justified and were the hero of their own story. Jordan Peterson gives an emotional reaction to Pain's cycle of hatred speech. Like I explained earlier wars are also waged when there is profit or to defend oneself. You are working for your justice, and I for mine. He could understand Pain's pain, he could appreciate it and he couldn't even say he was wrong. And becomes a chain of hatred. If Kishi wants it, it will happen and if he wants Naruto to bring peace to the ninja world then it happens. In other words, Pain's whole message is cheap and flimsy. We are just ordinary people driven to revenge in the name of justice. [To Naruto] War brings death.. And wounds and pain to both sides. Naruto is simply solving the problem step-by-step. People can be greedy, people can be vain, people can be violent, people can murder, steal, and rape all on their own volition. Naruto could never speak from a point of loss before this point in the series because, like Sasuke says in Part 1, Naruto never had anything. On Metalhead Community this week so hard to support and was killed is benevolent people... Nobody is truly right or justified in what they say, what they think… and they become real.... 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